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03/20/2020 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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           SB 160-FOREST LAND USE PLANS; TIMBER SALES                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  SENATE BILL  NO. 160,  "An Act  relating to  forest land  use                                                               
plans;  relating to  forest land  use plan  appeals; relating  to                                                               
negotiated timber sales; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRIS MAISCH,  Director, Division of Forestry,  Alaska Department                                                               
of Natural Resources, Fairbanks, Alaska,  stated that the goal of                                                               
SB  160 is  to provide  better support  to Alaska  businesses and                                                               
communities  that  depend  on State  timber  sales  for  economic                                                               
stability and  growth. The legislation would  remove barriers and                                                               
improve the  timber sales process  while allowing for  public and                                                               
community input on proposed projects.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH  said he would  walk through portions of  the briefing                                                               
paper in  the bill packets,  focusing on the current  timber sale                                                               
process  and highlighting  the  changes the  bill  makes to  that                                                               
process. The briefing paper read as follows:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Issue 1:  Negotiated Timber  Sales. Under  current law,                                                                  
     negotiated  timber  sales  are authorized  under  three                                                                    
     different statutes, which  is unnecessarily complicated                                                                    
     and   confusing.  In   addition,  the   Division  lacks                                                                    
     authority to offer long-term  negotiated sales for out-                                                                    
     of-state   markets,  and   to  offer   more  than   one                                                                    
     negotiated  sale per  year to  a  purchaser, which  the                                                                    
     industry currently requires.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Issue 2: Forest  Land Use Plans &  Appeals. For certain                                                                  
     timber  sales, especially  large acreage  and long-term                                                                    
     sales, the Division of Forestry  (DOF) may issue a Best                                                                    
     Interest Finding  (BIF) and award  the sale  before all                                                                    
     the Forest  Land Use  Plans (FLUPs)  for the  sale area                                                                    
     are completed.  In these cases,  the BIF and  FLUPs may                                                                    
     be  appealed at  different times,  delaying the  actual                                                                    
     sale and interrupting  harvest operations. This creates                                                                    
     uncertainty in executing the sale.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Background: Negotiated Timber Sales.                                                                                     
     Timber   sale  statutes   currently  provide   for  the                                                                    
     following  types  of  sales.  AS  38.05.115  authorizes                                                                    
     negotiated sales without advertisement  of no more than                                                                    
     500  MBM per  year  to the  same  purchaser. These  are                                                                    
     small-scale sales.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AS 38.05.118 authorizes negotiated sales of timber                                                                         
        - to a local manufacturer of wood products or a                                                                         
             user of wood fiber,                                                                                                
           - for a period not to exceed 25 years,                                                                               
           - and requires that the appraised value of the                                                                       
             timber remaining to be harvested is                                                                                
             redetermined every five years.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AS 38.05.120 authorizes sales by  sealed bids or public                                                                    
     auction.   The   commissioner  determines   conditions,                                                                    
     limitations, and  terms of  the sale  are. This  is the                                                                    
     Division of Forestry's basic timber sale authority.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS 38.05.123 authorizes negotiated sales                                                                                   
           - for use in the local manufacture of high                                                                           
             value-added wood products                                                                                          
           - of up to 10 million board feet per year                                                                            
           - for a term of up to 10 years.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Background: Forest Land Use Plans & Appeals                                                                              
     Timber Sale  Process: The state timber  sale process is                                                                  
     governed by  AS 38.05,  AS 41.17, and  11 AAC  71. Four                                                                    
     steps  are  required  before  a   timber  sale  may  be                                                                    
     offered. Steps 3  and 4 may be  done simultaneously for                                                                    
     certain sales.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Step 1:  Regional planning.  The Department  of Natural                                                                    
     Resources (DNR) develops area  plans (AS 38.04.065) and                                                                    
     state  forest   management  plans  (AS   41.17.230)  to                                                                    
     designate appropriate uses for  state land. These plans                                                                    
     determine  where timber  sales are  an allowed  use and                                                                    
     what other  uses must be considered  when designing and                                                                    
     implementing sales.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Step 2: Five-Year Schedule of  Timber Sales (FYSTS) (AS                                                                    
     38.05.113). The DOF area offices  prepare a FYSTS every                                                                    
     other  year.  The   FYSTS  identifies  proposed  sales,                                                                    
     including  their  location,  volume,  and  main  access                                                                    
     routes. The  FYSTS are  scoping documents  that provide                                                                    
     an opportunity  for the public, agencies,  and industry                                                                    
     to identify potential issues and  areas of interest for                                                                    
     further consideration  in the BIF and  FLUP. A proposed                                                                    
     timber  sale must  appear in  at least  one of  the two                                                                    
     FYSTS preceding the sale. FYSTSs are not appealable.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Step 3: Best Interest  Finding (AS 38.05.035(e)). A BIF                                                                    
     is the decision document that:                                                                                             
     • Establishes the overall area within which the timber                                                                     
        sale may occur,                                                                                                         
     • Determines the amount of timber that may be offered                                                                      
        for sale, and the sale duration,                                                                                        
     • Sets the overall harvest and reforestation strategy                                                                      
        for the sale area,                                                                                                      
     • Determines whether the sale proposal  complies with                                                                      
        the Alaska Constitutional requirement  to manage for                                                                    
        sustained yield by  evaluating the amount  of timber                                                                    
        in the  sale and  the annual  allowable cut  for the                                                                    
        affected area,                                                                                                          
     • Selects the  appropriate  method   of  sale  (e.g.,                                                                      
        competitive or negotiated sale), and                                                                                    
     • Determines the appraisal method that will be used to                                                                     
        determine the sale price.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     A Preliminary Best Interest  Finding (PBIF) is intended                                                                    
     to document  that the best  interest of the  State will                                                                    
     be  served by  the  proposed action  and satisfies  the                                                                    
     public  notice  requirement   for  disposals  of  state                                                                    
     resources  in article  VIII, section  10 of  the Alaska                                                                    
     Constitution.  After public  and agency  review of  the                                                                    
     PBIF,   DOF   reviews   comments,  makes   changes   as                                                                    
     appropriate, and issues a  final best interest finding.                                                                    
     DOF  must  adopt a  final  BIF  before selling  timber.                                                                    
     Final BIFs  are decision documents and  may be appealed                                                                    
     to  the  commissioner  (if  originally  signed  at  the                                                                    
     director  level)  or   superior  court  (if  originally                                                                    
     signed by the commissioner).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Step 4: Forest Land Use  Plans (AS 38.05.112). Prior to                                                                    
     authorizing harvest of timber  on any area greater than                                                                    
     10 acres, DOF must adopt  a site-specific FLUP for each                                                                    
     harvest unit within  the sale area covered  by the BIF.                                                                    
     A FLUP  may be  adopted before or  after the  timber is                                                                    
     sold,  but it  must be  completed prior  to harvest.  A                                                                    
     FLUP  specifies the  site,  size,  timing, and  harvest                                                                    
     methods  for harvest  units within  the  sale area,  as                                                                    
     well  as  addressing   site-specific  requirements  for                                                                    
     access  construction  and  maintenance,  reforestation,                                                                    
     and multiple  use management. Draft FLUPs  are based on                                                                    
     additional   field    work,   agency    and   community                                                                    
     consultation,  and site-specific  analyses by  DOF, and                                                                    
     are  subject to  public  and agency  review. FLUPs  are                                                                    
     required  by statute,  but the  format and  contents of                                                                    
     the FLUP are subject to DNR's discretion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Appeals:                                                                                                                 
     Both the  BIF and FLUP  are subject to appeal  under AS                                                                    
     38.05.035 and AS 44.37.011.                                                                                                
     • For BIFs, which are signed by the  commissioner, AS                                                                      
        38.05.035(e) and AS 44.37.011(c)  allow an aggrieved                                                                    
        person   to  request   a   reconsideration  of   the                                                                    
        commissioner's  decision. AS  38.095.035(i)  details                                                                    
        the public notice and appeal process.                                                                                   
     • FLUPs are signed by Area Foresters, and are decision                                                                     
        documents  under 11  AAC  02.900(4),  defined as  "a                                                                    
        written discretionary  or  factual determination  by                                                                    
        the department specifying the details  of the action                                                                    
        to  be  allowed  or  taken."   FLUPs  therefore  are                                                                    
        appealable to the commissioner under AS 44.37.011(b)                                                                    
        and 11 AAC 02.                                                                                                          
     • DOF provides public  notice  and  a minimum  30-day                                                                      
        public  comment  period on  proposed  FLUPs  because                                                                    
        doing  so enables  DOF  to  restrict eligibility  to                                                                    
        appeal  or  request  reconsideration  to  those  who                                                                    
        submitted comments. See AS 38.05.035(i).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Current  Situation: Forest  Land Use  Plans &  Appeals.                                                                  
     Purchasers  often desire  large and/or  long-term sales                                                                    
     to  provide  a steady  supply  of  timber over  several                                                                    
     years. However,  DOF does not have  sufficient staff to                                                                    
     do  the in-depth  fieldwork and  research necessary  to                                                                    
     prepare the  multiple FLUPs required for  large acreage                                                                    
     sales  or sales  lasting more  than three  years before                                                                    
     offering the entire sale.  Long-term sales also require                                                                    
     intermediate  recalculations  of  the  total  allowable                                                                    
     cut. As  a result, timber  harvest on a  long-term sale                                                                    
     may be  interrupted by administrative  (and potentially                                                                    
     judicial)  appeals of  FLUPs  that  are prepared  after                                                                    
     award of the contract.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Appeals  of a  BIF are  limited in  scope to  decisions                                                                    
     made in  the BIF (whether  and how much timber  will be                                                                    
     sold),  while appeals  of  a FLUP  are  limited to  the                                                                    
     scope of  that document  (site specific details  of how                                                                    
     the harvest  will be conducted). In  practice, however,                                                                    
     appellants sometimes  challenge aspects  of the  BIF in                                                                    
     the context of  a FLUP appeal. While  these appeals may                                                                    
     be  dismissed on  procedural  grounds, processing  them                                                                    
     diverts staff and interrupts  timber harvest. Even when                                                                    
     the  appropriate issues  are identified  in an  appeal,                                                                    
     the  fact that  BIFs  and FLUPs  are  often adopted  at                                                                    
     separate   times   provides   two   opportunities   for                                                                    
     administrative, and  potentially, judicial,  appeals to                                                                    
     interrupt sale execution.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Current  Situation: Negotiated  Timber Sales.  Industry                                                                  
     interest recently has focused  on long term, negotiated                                                                    
     sales  for  out-of-state   markets.  Current  statutory                                                                    
     authorities   reflect   prior   policy   to   encourage                                                                    
     development  of  in-state  use of  the  state's  timber                                                                    
     resources, and  do not clearly  authorize this  type of                                                                    
     sale.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Action  Needed:  The   Division  of  Forestry  proposes                                                                  
     statute changes (primarily to AS 38.05) that:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     1. Consolidate small-scale negotiated sales  (now under                                                                    
        AS 38.05.115) into the large-scale negotiated timber                                                                    
        sales  statute   (AS  38.05.118)   and  delete   the                                                                    
        requirements that negotiated sales must be for local                                                                    
        manufacture, and  that  only  one  per year  may  be                                                                    
        offered to a purchaser. These revisions will provide                                                                    
        the  commissioner  of  the   Department  of  Natural                                                                    
        Resources with the  flexibility to  negotiate timber                                                                    
        sales that  balance the  evolving  economics of  the                                                                    
        timber  industry  with  the   Alaska  Constitution's                                                                    
        mandate  for  resource  development  in  the  public                                                                    
        interest; and                                                                                                           
     2. Protect forest land use plans from  being subject to                                                                    
        appeal or  reconsideration,  while  keeping  a  best                                                                    
        interest finding concerning a timber sale appealable                                                                    
        under the  same statute.  This will  result in  more                                                                    
        efficient  forest   management  planning   and  more                                                                    
        predictable timber harvests, while  retaining robust                                                                    
        public and agency participation in the process.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The proposed statute changes:                                                                                              
     1.  Make  forest  land   use  plans  non-appealable  or                                                                    
         subject to reconsideration under AS 44.37.011(B),                                                                      
         while leaving intact other significant public                                                                          
         process protections, including:                                                                                        
          • the right to appeal a commissioner's best                                                                           
             interest finding concerning a timber sale under                                                                    
             AS 44.37.011(B);                                                                                                   
          • the public notice and written best interest                                                                         
             finding requirements in as 38.05.035(E)(6)(a);                                                                     
          • public notice requirements for negotiated sales                                                                     
             of 500,000 board feet of timber or less in                                                                         
             38.05.945; and                                                                                                     
          • the requirement for public notice of disposal                                                                       
             of state interests in Article VIII, Section 10                                                                     
             of the Alaska Constitution.                                                                                        
     2.  Clarify  the  steps   of  a  timber  sale,  stating                                                                    
         clearly that a timber  sale contract may be awarded                                                                    
         before  a forest  land  use plan  is prepared,  but                                                                    
         harvest of timber may not occur before a site-                                                                         
         specific forest land use plan is adopted.                                                                              
     3.  Clarify the factors  that must be considered before                                                                    
         deciding under  which provision a  timber sale will                                                                    
         be offered (e.g., competitive or negotiated sale).                                                                     
     4.  Consolidate     small-scale     negotiated     sale                                                                    
         authorities  from AS  38.05.115  into AS  38.05.118                                                                    
         and  remove the limitation  of only  one negotiated                                                                    
         sale per year to the same purchaser.                                                                                   
     5.  Preserve  the  exemption  for negotiated  sales  of                                                                    
         less  than 500,000  board feet  of timber  from the                                                                    
         written best interest  finding requirement under AS                                                                    
         38.05.035(e)(6)(A).                                                                                                    
     6.  Leave  intact   AS  38.05.123,  which   deals  with                                                                    
         negotiated  timber sales  for local  manufacture of                                                                    
         wood  products,  to assure  domestic  manufacturers                                                                    
         that  they  have  an  authority tailored  to  their                                                                    
         specific needs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     These  proposed  statute  changes  would  also  require                                                                    
     adopting  updated  forest  management  regulations  for                                                                    
     negotiated  sales,  including   11  AAC  71.010,  .015,                                                                    
     .020(d),  .035, .045,  .050,  .055,  .070, .092,  .094,                                                                    
     .096, .098, and .910.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH explained that there are four steps that the State                                                                   
must complete to sell timber.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He said Step 1 is the regional planning process. There must be a                                                                
regional plan in place and if it is in a state forest, the State                                                                
Forest  Management Plan  is also  in place  before the  State can                                                               
offer timber on lands that classified for timber purposes.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  explained that  Step 2  is the  Five-Year Schedule  of Timber                                                               
Sales (FYSTS).  The schedule is  a document that  provides notice                                                               
to operators,  communities, and the  public about  planned timber                                                               
sale  activities  over a  five-year  time  horizon. The  division                                                               
publishes FYSTS documents  every two years. Sales  listed in year                                                               
one are typically the sales that  will be up next. However, sales                                                               
may move up; FYSTS is not a linear document.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MAISCH  said  Step  3  is  a  Best  Interest  Finding  (BIF)                                                               
requirement  for  the  disposal  of any  State  asset,  including                                                               
timber.  The BIF  process  includes a  preliminary  BIF that  has                                                               
public and  affected agency comments. The  division publishes the                                                               
final  BIF after  making any  needed  adjustments. The  BIF is  a                                                               
decision  document that  is appealable  by potentially  aggrieved                                                               
parties.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH explained  that in  Step 4  the division  completes a                                                               
site-specific  forest land  use plan  (FLUP that  addresses site-                                                               
specific  actions  in  the  sale.   The  FLUP  is  an  appealable                                                               
document, but a key  change in the bill is to  change the FLUP to                                                               
an unappealable document.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that the division  has five different  timber sales                                                               
authorities under AS 38.05. He  detailed that AS 38.05.120 is the                                                               
competitive sale authority that can  be carried out by sealed bid                                                               
or oral  outcry. The division  awards the signed  contracted sale                                                               
to the high bidder.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH explained  that the  other suite  of authorities  the                                                               
division has  are various forms  of negotiated  sale authorities.                                                               
The first  authority is  under AS  38.05.117 for  timber salvage.                                                               
This is  meant for timber  damaged by bark beetles,  insects, and                                                               
fire that  requires prompt salvage. The  timber salvage authority                                                               
abbreviates some  divisional processes  that includes  not having                                                               
to  list the  sales in  the  Five-Year Schedule  of Timber  Sales                                                               
(FYSTS).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH said the rest of  the authorities the division has are                                                               
all negotiated  sale authorities.  AS 38.05.115  authorizes small                                                               
sales  under 500,000  board feet  that can  be up  to 2  years in                                                               
length. AS  38.05.118 authorizes larger sales  over 500,000 board                                                               
feet that can be up to  25 years in time. AS 38.05.123 authorizes                                                               
high value-added sales up to 10  million board feet per year that                                                               
can be up to 10 years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE asked  him to go through the changes  SB 160 makes                                                               
to the process.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH   explained  that   the  first   change  is   to  [AS                                                               
38.05.035(e)(6)(A)].  It is  conforming language  that changes  a                                                               
reference to a sale type from  AS 38.05.115 to AS 38.05.118. This                                                               
change is not substantive.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He continued to detail the changes in the CS as follows:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Page 6, Section 2                                                                                                        
        o First major change to the BIF process.                                                                                
        o The criteria under the current BIF process for timber                                                                 
          sales was relatively undefined.                                                                                       
        o The CS proposes to add five specific criteria to the                                                                  
          section to make a BIF more defensible when challenged                                                                 
          by an aggrieved party.                                                                                                
        o The change specifies departmental and divisional                                                                      
          conditions for choosing an authority to sell timber by                                                                
          addressing:                                                                                                           
             square4 Local timber markets for materials                                                                         
         square4 Foreign or domestic market development                                                                         
             square4 Economic constraints for the intended timber                                                               
               market                                                                                                           
             square4 Any reasonable or foreseeable benefit to the                                                               
               State and local economies from the sale                                                                          
             square4 Presence of underutilized timber                                                                           
        o Underutilized timber means the division is not                                                                        
          offering the full allowable cut in an area and excess                                                                 
          timber is available for offer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:53:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MAISCH  said one  example of how  adding more  flexibility to                                                               
the  BIF process  would be  beneficial is  the young  growth logs                                                               
coming online in Southeast Alaska.  These logs only have a market                                                               
in  China,   but  the  division's  current   authority  under  AS                                                               
38.05.118  does not  allow the  division to  negotiate an  export                                                               
sale for that type of timber.  By adding the proposed criteria to                                                               
the  BIF,  the division  would  be  able  to make  the  analysis,                                                               
address the market and economic  issues, and offer a sale through                                                               
a negotiated authority.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MICCICHE noted that Mr. Maisch was discussing the CS for                                                                  
SB 160 and asked for a motion to adopt the CS as the working                                                                    
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REVAK moved to adopt the CS for SB 160, work order 31-                                                                  
GS2170\M, as a working document.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:54:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE objected for discussion purposes and asked Mr.                                                                   
Maisch to continue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH described the following changes in the CS for SB 160:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • Section 3, Page 6, Line 3                                                                                                
        o Increases the threshold from 10 acres to 20 acres.                                                                    
        o Does  not  allow  timber  harvest  permit  until  site-                                                               
          specific Forest Land Use Plan is in place.                                                                            
        o The best interest finding allows  the division to offer                                                               
          a timber sale, but the FLUP must be completed before                                                                  
          the timber harvest can occur.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   • Section 5, Page 7                                                                                                        
        o Deleted  language   that  would  not  apply   with  the                                                               
          proposed changes for negotiated sales.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • Section 6                                                                                                                
        o Conforming language changes to  the references of where                                                               
          the new, small sales occur.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   • Section 7                                                                                                                
        o Addresses the  notice of intent to  negotiate for sales                                                               
         greater than 500,000 board feet or equivalent.                                                                         
        o Mid-size sales are high value-added.                                                                                  
        o AS 38.05.123 targets  sales of 10 years  and 10 million                                                               
          board feet per year.                                                                                                  
        o Large sales over 500,000 board  feet per year can be up                                                               
          to 25 years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   • Section 9                                                                                                                
        o High value-added authority section.                                                                                   
        o Line 3 adds conforming language.                                                                                      
        o Line  6 adds  a  definition of  other value-added  wood                                                               
          products, a term already defined in regulation.                                                                       
             square4 Lists products and materials categories that a                                                             
               mill must produce to qualify for a sale under AS                                                                 
               38.05.123.                                                                                                       
   • Section 10                                                                                                               
        o Deletes language currently in AS 38.05.123 to make the                                                                
          authority more efficient.                                                                                             
        o The division proposes to remove seven criteria in the                                                                 
          AS 38.05.123 authority that is cumbersome.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   • Section 11                                                                                                               
        o Conforming language                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   • Page 9                                                                                                                   
        o Effective date                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL joined the committee meeting.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:58:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MAISCH  summarized  that the  legislation  would  provide  a                                                               
consistent  and  flexible  timber  sale program  to  support  the                                                               
entire  range  of domestic  mills.  The  bill encourages  further                                                               
development   of   offshore  markets   for   logs   as  well   as                                                               
manufacturing opportunities for forest products in the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  highlighted  that  the  key  change makes  the  FLUP  a  non-                                                               
appealable document.  He explained  that the FLUP  appeals impact                                                               
longer  term  sales under  AS  38.05.118  and AS  38.05.120.  The                                                               
division only  writes a FLUP  in 5-year increments which  means a                                                               
25-year timber sale  could have 5 appeals. As  proposed, just the                                                               
best interest  finding would be  an appealable document,  but not                                                               
the FLUP.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked if the  items added  in Section 2  to the                                                               
best interest finding are equally weighted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH  answered that the  section provides  broad discretion                                                               
in  how the  division addresses  the BIF.  He explained  that the                                                               
added  items to  the BIF  are  not equally  weighted because  the                                                               
division  may only  address one  or two  items. For  example, the                                                               
young growth timber is market-driven,  so the division would only                                                               
address the market components.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  noted  that   criteria  (6)  says  "any  other                                                               
reasonably  foreseeable benefit  to  the state  or local  economy                                                               
resulting from  the sale."  He remarked  that that  is a  big and                                                               
open statement that could include something not in the BIF.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH agreed  that the statement is very  broad and flexible                                                               
and deferred  further response to  Mr. Orman with  the Department                                                               
of Law.  He said DOL  looked carefully  at the criteria  and made                                                               
some of the specific recommendations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:02:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTOPHER  ORMAN, Assistant  Attorney General,  Civil Division,                                                               
Natural  Resources  Division,  Alaska Department  of  Law  (DOL),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, explained that the  [sixth] criteria in Section 2                                                               
was  taken from  what is  currently, AS  38.05.123[(e)](7), which                                                               
reads: "any  other reasonably foreseeable  benefits to  the state                                                               
and  local economies  from  the sale."  He  said preserving  that                                                               
language  in AS  38.05.123 along  with  the other  factors in  AS                                                               
38.05.110   makes  it   clear  that   the  commissioner   is  not                                                               
arbitrarily choosing  a means  or type  of sale.  Certain factors                                                               
and flexibility is  needed when considering the  best interest of                                                               
the State within the BIF  context. The public can still challenge                                                               
the BIF through the appeal process.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI noted  that  Section  2 says  the  sale can  be                                                               
offered  under  multiple  provisions   by  considering  the  best                                                               
interest of the State in addition  to the five other criteria. He                                                               
asked if  a timber sale may  be offered exclusively under  one of                                                               
the criteria,  but not in the  best interest of the  State, which                                                               
is the first criteria.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ORMAN answered  that there  is the  BIF requirement  for all                                                               
timber sales.  He said current  language under AS  38.05.110 says                                                               
the commissioner shall determine  the applicable provisions under                                                               
which to offer  the timber sale there is no  real analysis of the                                                               
factors to consider for determining  the means of sale. Section 2                                                               
is intended  to remove some  of the arbitrariness  that currently                                                               
exists in that statute.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  said he did  not understand the  interplay between                                                               
sections  7  and  8.  Section  7 suggests  that  notice  is  only                                                               
required  for quantities  greater  than 500,000  board feet,  but                                                               
Section 8 seems  to allow up to an additional  500,000 board feet                                                               
within  a year.  He asked  if the  legislation allows  up to  one                                                               
million board feet.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MASCH explained that the  new language in section 7 specifies                                                               
that the  division must  give notice for  all sales  greater than                                                               
500,000 board  feet. He read the  language in section 8  and said                                                               
he did  not fully understand the  question, but the idea  is that                                                               
the  division cannot  offer a  sale  for more  than 500,000  feet                                                               
without notice. He added that  there are also notice requirements                                                               
for smaller sales.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MICCICHE asked for clarification  of Mr. Maisch's answer to                                                               
Senator Kiehl.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:10:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ORMAN  concurred that  Section  7  does not  require  public                                                               
notice  for  small timber  sales.  Currently  under AS  38.05.115                                                               
there  is   a  provision  that  says,   "without  advertisement."                                                               
However,  the Alaska  Constitution  has  notice requirements.  He                                                               
said Mr.  Maisch may  have been referring  to small  timber sales                                                               
not requiring public notice to the level of AS 38.05.945.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that subsection  (d) om section  8 would  allow for                                                               
more  negotiated   sales  within  a  year.   AS  38.05.118(b)  is                                                               
discussing notice  and AS  38.05.118(d) is  discussing negotiated                                                               
and pursuant to the amount of board feet at issue.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  remarked that  sections 7  and 8  seem to  allow a                                                               
499,000 board  foot sale to  become a  1 million board  foot sale                                                               
within  a year  without additional  notice.  He said  he did  not                                                               
understand what keeps that from occurring.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ORMAN  reiterated that  regardless of the  size of  the sale,                                                               
public  notice must  happen. AS  38.05.945 has  additional notice                                                               
requirements,  but  notice  can  happen  through  other  avenues.                                                               
Notice needs  to reach the appropriate  affected people, pursuant                                                               
to the Alaska Constitution.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MICCICHE  summarized that Section  7 states that  an amount                                                               
greater  than  500,000  board  feet  requires  the  AS  38.05.945                                                               
notice. Section  8 allows for additional  negotiated timber sales                                                               
within the year  for an amount less than 500,000  board feet, but                                                               
there is the lesser notification requirement.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH added  that the division would have to  go back and do                                                               
a BIF  to negotiate additional  board footage. Most  timber sales                                                               
go  through   a  competitive  process  using   the  AS  38.05.120                                                               
authority and rarely does the  division add another 500,000 board                                                               
feet to a prior negotiated  sale. The reason the division usually                                                               
negotiates  sales   is  to  help   support  local   sawmills  and                                                               
manufacturing that is already occurring  in the state. Negotiated                                                               
authorities  are  not a  common  way  for  the division  to  sell                                                               
timber,  but the  process is  a way  that the  division can  sell                                                               
timber.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:14:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  referenced page 8, line  1 and asked if  citing AS                                                               
34.15.150 was a  typo. He noted that AS  34.15.150 references the                                                               
execution of conveyances.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ORMAN  replied  that  he believes  citing  AS  34.15.150  is                                                               
correct. He said he will get  back to the committee to confirm if                                                               
referencing the statute is a typo.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MICCICHE  said  he  would  like  the  questions  regarding                                                               
sections  7 and  8 addressed.  He noted  that the  committee will                                                               
hold SB 160 in committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL said the heart of  the bill was the notion that the                                                               
FLUP would no  longer be appealable. The argument  of not wanting                                                               
to give somebody four or  five bites-of-the-apple over the course                                                               
of a  sale was understandable.  However, the FLUP  does different                                                               
things  than  a BIF.  The  FLUP  addresses things  that  Alaskans                                                               
generally  want input  on like  the site,  size, timing,  harvest                                                               
methods,  access  requirements,  and reforestation.  He  remarked                                                               
that seeing Alaskans  having confidence in a  FLUP without appeal                                                               
would be hard for him to see.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:17:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MAISCH  explained  that  the  best  interest  finding  (BIF)                                                               
addresses many of  the same topics as the Forest  Land Use Plans,                                                               
but the FLUP has more detail.  He reminded the committee that the                                                               
areas have also been addressed by  an area plan and potentially a                                                               
State Forest Management Plan, which  has a lot of public process.                                                               
Those  documents provide  strategic guidelines  for reforestation                                                               
and road  building. The division  must meet minimum  standards of                                                               
the  State's Forest  Resources and  Practices  Act (FRPA),  which                                                               
provides guidelines and best practices  for the variety of forest                                                               
practices that the FLUP addresses.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He emphasized that  the division is just proposing  to change the                                                               
appeal  piece of  the  Forest  Land Use  Plans.  They will  still                                                               
circulate a FLUP to affected  agencies that typically include the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Environmental Conservation (DEC)  for water                                                               
quality, and the  Alaska Department of Fish and  Game (ADF&G) for                                                               
fish habitat. And  they will continue to take  public comment and                                                               
consider that commentary when crafting the final FLUP.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL pointed out that  for years Alaskans have asked for                                                               
the opportunity to comment on  fish habitat permits, but they are                                                               
not  subject to  public comment  or  appeal. He  said one  reason                                                               
ADF&G has given  for not taking public comment  on those permits,                                                               
especially regarding timber  sales, is that the  FLUP can address                                                               
habitat  concerns when  it is  subject to  comment. He  expressed                                                               
concern about  Alaskans' role in  the process and  questioned the                                                               
reason for doing  the Forest Land Use Plan when  there is an area                                                               
plan  and  a BIF  that  covers  everything Alaskans  are  worried                                                               
about.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH explained that in places  of the state where there are                                                               
no higher-level  planning documents,  the FLUP  can serve  as the                                                               
guiding plan. For  example, the division did a sale  in Galena to                                                               
support the  community's biomass  project for a  woodchip boiler.                                                               
For the  state to hold a  timber sale on state  land, a planning-                                                               
level  document   is  required   and  the  FLUP   fulfilled  that                                                               
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:21:01 PM                                                                                                                    
TESSA  AXELSON, Executive  Director,  Alaska Forest  Association,                                                               
Ketchikan, Alaska, testified  in support of SB 160.  She said she                                                               
would cover  the three primary  benefits of  SB 160 and  why they                                                               
are  important to  AFA members  and the  industry. First,  SB 160                                                               
provides DNR  with the ability  to negotiate sales with  any user                                                               
of timber resources. Second, it  eliminates the ability to appeal                                                               
the  FLUP, which  increases the  efficiency of  conducting timber                                                               
sales  without  compromising   environmental  review  and  public                                                               
comment   requirements   that   exist  through   other   planning                                                               
components.  Third, SB  160  provides DNR  the  ability to  offer                                                               
small   volume  timber   sales  with   greater  efficiency.   She                                                               
summarized  that the  bill provides  the  opportunity to  address                                                               
current challenges  with timber  sale processes  and authorities.                                                               
This  legislation  is  of  particular interest  to  AFA  and  its                                                               
members to ensure a predictable timber supply.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:23:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MICCICHE  opened  public  testimony.  He  said  seeing  no                                                               
requests to testify, public testimony remains open for SB 160.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:23:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE  removed his objection and  the CS for SB  160 was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:24:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE held SB 160 in committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 130 Draft Amendment v. M.1.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 130
SB 160 v. A.PDF SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Sponsor Statement 2.04.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Fiscal Note DNR-DOF 01.18.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Timber Sales Briefing Paper-FLUP 3.20.20.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Written Testimony AK Forest Assoc 03.19.2020.PDF SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Draft CS v. M.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
HB 16 ver. U.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Sponsor Statement Version U 3.20.19.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Fiscal Note DEC-EH 03.13.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Supporting Documents - Suzy Conrad Presentation 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Background Documents on Herd Shares compiled 2.04.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Written Testimony combined as of 03.19.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
SB 194 v. M.PDF SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Sectional Analysis ver. M.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Fiscal Note DEC-CO 03.02.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Presentation by Sponsor 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Presentation-NEI 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document PBS Article 02.12.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Written Testimony NEI 03.12.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document NEI Road Map Microreactors Report 10.04.2018.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Written Testimony NuGen 03.18.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Written Testimony OKLO 3.16.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document CATF Advanced Nuclear Energy.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document NEI Cost Competitiveness Report 04.15.2019.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 130 Written Testimony PSPA 03.04.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 130
SB 160 Written Testimony RDC 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160